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What the heck's a "withe"? Who's the best cook in the crew? What's the difference between an "anchor tent" and an "underway tent"? Our brave Vikings aren't afraid to answer your toughest questions about any aspect of the voyage. Just e-mail them at

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September 8, 1998

Larry asks: Hey guys! I've been following your progress and really enjoying it. Has "Snorrie" been as seaworthy as you expected? Does she ride well in rough weather. Does she rise nicely in a following sea, and how does she handle large oncoming rollers? How close to the wind does she point?

John Abbott responds: As a cargo ship by design, Snorri is wide at the beam (16 ft.), is extremely seaworthy, and has performed great and beyond our expectations. While she doesn't sail well close on the wind (65 to 70 degrees only, considering leeway) this is an expected compromise for a Viking cargo vessel (in fact any cargo vessel). She only has a 3-inch keel, shallow rise, and was built to beach out to unload cargo. Her 6th plank out from the keel, the "meginhufer," is more plumb than the 5th and 7th planks and may act as a secondary keel. She does make higher in calmer water.

With following winds and sea she is an absolute beauty...this is where her strength lies. We've sailed downwind at 10 knots, speeds most modern boats would be happy to make. Boats with big square sails do best downwind. Because of her beam she rises high on the rollers and steadily drops. At 24 tons she's a bit hard to get surfing, though we've experienced this on a few occasions. (Written in consultation with builder Rob Stevens...)

A question for Rob: I know last year the rudder was causing all sorts of trouble, and this year I notice you are much further along the trip. Beyond survivability, has the new rudder design proven incredibly better for handling? Do you feel that the success you've had this year is mostly due to the rudder, or are other aspects weighing in as well?

Rob responds: The new rudder design is really just a Viking rudder fine-tuned and it works very nicely. Also we reframed the area by the rudder, also in a Viking-like manner, and these two things have eliminated our problems. Actually, last year's rudder, which was not a Viking design, may have handled a little better but was too large for the boat and put too much strain on the hull.

A visitor asks: What has been your biggest adventure so far on your journey?

John Abbott responds: Probably different for different people. Highlights have included cruising the coastal mountains and high glaciers near Manitsoq, Greenland, seeing polar bear numerous times in Baffin Island, and landing on the lush Iron Strand here in Labrador. We also loved our visits to Sisimuit and hiking above the fjords. In terms of confronting the unknown, working out our rudder difficulties and successfully crossing the Davis and Hudson Straits were big adventures. The whole trip has held new adventures daily.

A student at Bowdon Elementary School asks: Did a polar bear really eat a scientist?

John Abbott responds: A ship's captain in Nain had told our friend and video producer, David Conover, that a researcher disappeared from her party on the coast. A while later, though unable to find her body, they apparently discovered a polar bear bloodied from a kill. We have no other information as to who she was, represented or when this occured. There are a number of polar-bear-eating-humans stories that fly in these parts...(no pun intended).

August 28, 1998 

Sid wants to know... "In the background of the picture of Iron Strand it appears there are caves or mining activity. What was at the base of the mountain shown in the picture?"

Hodding Carter shares his observations, No, there did not appear to be any mining activities in the area. I've heard that the whole Tongat region might be turned into a national park. That is just hearsay, though. This coastline is probably the most dramatic landscape I've seen. I think it equals the Grand Canyon in beauty and stature.
 

Gary, of Topsail, Newfoundland asks for news, "Hi Guys, You've got guts. I worked in the oil industry in the late seventies and eighties and have spent several summers and falls in the Davis Strait. I would like to know: is the air still fresh there and is there still an abundance of ducks, whales and other wild life in the area. Be safe and good luck."

Hodding shares some good news, The air and streams (along the coast, of course) are still as fresh as you can imagine. We've never seen smog and feel we are drinking the best water we've ever had. I can't even list the number of times we've seen whales and seals, as well as some type of auk.
 

David inquires, "Would the original Vikings have taken this long to reach L'Anse aux Meadows? (having the same sailing problems as you have, sailing within sight of land as much as possible, sounds like so much time and so little progress some days when I read your journal entries). I read that you can 'see' over the horizon somehow and that the Vikings could "see" ahead of them, hence knowing that they were going 'somewhere' rather than falling off the edge of the world. Have you experienced this? and is it true? Good luck."

Hodding responds, From what I've read, I would say the real Vikings would have had the same results as we. It would have depended on the wind's direction. As much as we try, we really don't make any headway when we have to sail into the wind. Just yesterday, we covered 19 miles tacking to go 6 miles south. Ouch, that hurts even to write about it. As a result of ice blink or Arctic mirage, we do often see things far beyond what we would normally be able to make out. Sometimes, icebergs float hundreds of feet in the air even. It's a weird phenomenon. I don't know how much this effect allows us to see (sometimes it's not any farther; it just makes things weirder) "beyond" the horizon.
 

Abby poses a series of questions, "Have you been fishing much? Successfully? Have you seen any other boats or signs of human life since you arrived on the N. American coast? Have all of you been keeping journals? Congratulations and Godspeed!"

Hodding replies, You've hit us where it hurts. We are the lamest fishermen in the world. We troll and jig a lot. Over the past two years, we have caught about four cod. That's it. We had a casting reel for fishing in freshwater streams and lakes but we lost it overboard last week. SO at least we have an excuse for not catching trout now.

We passed one or two boats but didn't see the people on board. They weren't close enough. We haven't seen any other humans since August 3rd or so.

About half the crew keep journals. Besides keeping track of what we are doing and seeing, I think it also helps keep our sanity. You can vent and write things in your personal journal that just wouldn't be practical to let out on board--at least not at the time.  

Megan Morton former (at least for now) commercial fisherman/ Kenyon '86 shares a tale of her own... then poses a question, "I recently received a clipping my dad sent me about your voyage. My family consisting of a husband, two young boys, 3 wild boars (soon to be more), 20 or so chickens, and now a cow, live in a small remote Yupik community on the Kuskokwim river in western Alaska. We are 350 miles from the nearest road system and move all our 'stuff' by plane and boat. 

"My husband has been trying to convince me that the Vikings traveled with small cows on their open ships. Have you heard this ...I mean is this for real? I figure this was probably the ploy he was using to get me to bring a cow to Kalskag AK from Aniak AK, 40 river miles, in a 19' skiff. 'If our ancestors did it so can we!,' he told me. We managed to make it home to Kalskag and like our forefathers (according to my husband), we did not put her in a crate. It was an adventure...however I would recommend all future Vikings put large animals in a crate or at least add some sides to their boats so that the animal does not move about so much (or in our case put a whole hind quarter over the edge). 

"Next time you travel in a viking vessel, I think you should try your voyage with an Irish Dexter Cow. Dexters are very easy to travel with and when you travel with a cow everyone wants to help you out. Crocus, our 2 year-old pregnant heifer and I traveled 300 miles by road, spent the night in a backyard in downtown Anchorage, flew 1.5 hours in a DC6 to Aniak (where she and I got caught in weather for 3 days... thanks to some friendly gold miners we had a nice place to stay and a hot shower), finally met up with my man, George, and then we all came home via the 19' open skiff.

"I hope that your journey is going well. I miss being out on the water but not the awesome weather that the Sea can kick up in the months ahead... remember there is a hot shower in your future...it might be fifty days or more away... but that hot shower does exist!!!"
 

Hodding responds, Megan, I'm sorry but I think you're as crazy as we are. A heifer in a 19-ft. skiff. Seriously? Did Crocus appreciate her adventure?

While I agree George was using the Viking thing as a ploy to get Crocus home, I hate to tell you he was right. The Vikings traveled with sheep, goats and cows in boats just like ours. I used to daydream about doing the same in Snorri but I now can't imagine how they pulled it off. What about all the poop? Maybe they weren't as concerned about keeping their bilge as clean as we are. Actually, though, I've been reading about how concerned with cleanliness they were. One of the things that made them odd in Great Britain (besides being a little rough) was that they took baths once a week. I guess such cleanliness was unheard of. Regrettably, most of the crew and I are not quite managing to wash ourselves as often as once a week.

Thanks for your letter.  


August 24, 1998


Keith, a curious Canadian checks in re: "Life in the slow lane,"" No question just a comment. Cool site, cooler concept. (I bet you can appreciate the concept of cool.) OK, one question: How will you be able to understand the native inhabitants of Newfoundland when you arrive here. Speaking as a Canadian, I know I can't. LOL."

Doug responds, We will use Runic Sign Language (RSL)
 

Joel inquires: "As a group, what do you expect your next adventure to be?"

Doug replies, Lunch.
 
A. Jeffers, poses a question on several people's minds, "Since you have reached Baffin, you will most likely make it to Newfoundland. What are you planning to do when you reach L'Anse aux Meadows? Backtracking a little, will you sail by that long stretch of beach mentioned in the Norse Sagas?? Good luck!"

Doug responds, Yes, we should pass by the Wonder Strand [the beach mentioned in the Norse Sagas], which is 30-odd miles of unbroken sand beach. Weather permitting, we will stop and check it out. When we reach L'Anse aux Meadows, we will spend a night in one of the longhouses and drink the mead that Hodding made, and have a big Viking dinner in another Viking building. Then we will take showers, put on normal clothes, and spend a few days breaking down all the gear.
 

A San Francisco Finn inquires, "My question is, to what degree does the far north and your unusual adventure influence how you write, feel and think?"

Doug wryly replies, Approximately 39 degrees Farenheit so far, less if you're in the water. What a question. I guess Hodding took a stab at it last night.
 

Keir poses a query... and adds a wish, "What is the extent of water pollution on your route? Hope you have a great trip."

Doug answers - while adding a new word to the language, Haven't seen much at all, except inside the harbors of towns in Greenland, where it gets a little scudgy. The air and the water are very clean, still, at these latitudes.
 

Daryl's wonders, "Did you bring any female berserkers with you?"

Doug responds, No, there aren't any women on the voyage.
 

Larry, a grandfather and spokesperson for two inquisitive generations introduces a series of questions with, "Hello Salty's, We as a family have been enjoying following your 'saga.' Got some questions for you as our grandkids are home schooled and we are using this as a way to teach history and geography to them."


And poses the first question (his own): "How has the ship held up from a physical standpoint and is she as seaworthy as you expected?"

Doug responds, She is doing magnificently. Nothing has broken. There is one cross beam in the bow which has loosened a little due to constant upward pressure from the forward tack of the sail, which is attached there when we are on a reach. But we have simply tied it down to a frame underneath it and that has solved the problem.

Another query from Larry, "Do you get seasick - or did you get seasick when you first went to sea??"

Doug responds with particulars, Some people, three of the nine of us, have gotten seasick in big seas, but there is medicine you can take in the form of a patch that you wear on your neck, and that has helped everyone, though Rob still has a hard time on the really rough days.

Larry continues, "From my wife: Where is the bathroom? (Ignore her)"

Doug briefly replies, The world is our lavatory.

As his closer, Larry poses a group question, "From all of us (Larry, Myra, James, Glenn, Joshua, Brandon): Are you having fun?"

Doug replies, Speaking for all of us: this is a wonderful trip and we are having the time of our lives.


August 12, 1998

Karl inquires, "I have seen the ice pack map for the NW Atlantic this July and saw that it has moved much further south than in previous years. What accounts for this phenomenon? Good sailing and Godspeed."

Hodding replies, "The pack ice certainly broke up earlier than usual this year, which may explain why you're seeing more of it further south. The reports I've seen, however, haven't shown the ice much farther south than, say, last year. Maybe we're looking in different areas of the NW Atlantic. As far as the early breakup goes, there is a world of competing theories to explain it. A book called The Riddle of the Ice (published within last two years) tries to explain it, but I think that it is still all a riddle."



Scott asks,
"With reference to winds and seas, how much can the Snorri take? At what wave height do they come over the side/bow? How do you keep in rhythm when you row? Thanks and good luck. I'll be following your progress."

Hodding retorts, "We don't know what she can really take. In the crossing, we were double-reefed in 20-30 knot winds and confronted with 8-10 (sometimes higher) foot swells. We certainly took water over the bow quite frequently then, but it wasn't much of a problem. As usual, our biggest concern was the rudder lanyard; it was continually stretched and wrenched out of place. As for rowing, sometimes we sing, but a couple of us are so tone deaf that this only throws us even more of pace. We usually watch the forwardmost guy on the port side and follow his pace."



An old salt from Casco Bay, Maine, queries,"
I am a 77-year-old sailor who has cruised thousands of miles and read many sea stories. I'm fascinated by your voyage. Keep up the wonderful log reports ! I've never heard or read a more graphic and moving account of the green flash!! My questions are: What GPS system do you find works for best ? What is your best 24-hour run ? Must you "hand steer" always? Is the new rudder system working okay? We're in the middle of a Bermuda High here in Casco Bay - here's wishing you the same."

Hodding answers, "We have a handheld Garmin that appears to be working fine. But, since we're Vikings, we never use it. Okay, sometimes we might pull it out. I believe our best 24-hour run has been 110 miles or so. Our top speed for an entire hour is 10 knots. Yes, we always have to hand steer, but since the rudder is balanced better this year, it is usually not much of a struggle. The new rudder system seems fine, but we always have to adjust it - which usually means whacking wedges in to take out the slop."



Julie wonders,
"What are you eating for breakfast, lunch, and dinner? Is the food good? Are you going fishing? I am 8 years old and writing from Maine."

Hodding responds, "We drink mead when we wake up, then chew on a leftover leg of musk ox. Sometimes we fry up a little whale intestines. Okay, our diet is not that unusual. We eat granola, oatmeal, grits or bulgur wheat for breakfast - with a variety of dried fruits and nuts. For lunch, we have salami, cheese, peanut butter , honey and Nutella (a chocolate spread made with hazelnuts). We put this on WASA crackers. And for dinner, we eat Viking things like Thai curried chicken or clams linguine. Luckily, this is a cargo ship and we were able to pack a lot of interesting foods. When you're working outside 12 to 24 hours a day, it's nice to have good and varied food. Occasionally, we eat things like mountain sorrel, wild mushrooms or even whale. This last dish happened because we came upon some hunters who left what turned out to be a pot full of whale meat. People in this part of the world eat whale and it has taken me three years to get used to the notion. I still feel a little odd about it."


July 29, 1998

Alexander asks, "Since fog and other problems seem to be working against our intrepid "Vikings," maybe someone could advise me of evidence that there were women on at least some of these voyages. We visited L'Anse aux Meadows, Newfoundland, four weeks ago and the re-enactments in the huts included women. I thought the Vikings left their women-folk home in the fjords while they traveled the earth?"

Author: John Gardner, " There is plenty of evidence that women were on many Viking voyages, when they were traveling to settle, trade or maybe even fight (although little about this). Our boat is named after Snorri, the first Viking child born in North America. I can't remember his mother's name but she was obviously in Vinland. Also, the Greenlander's Saga has an interesting account of Freydis killing a number of people in Vinland. We don't have women on board with us simply because we couldn't find any who were willing to go with us or who could get away from their real lives."


Steve inquires, "I am curious as to how far north you are seeing different birds. That is, are there some that range farther north and/or cover a larger area than others?"

Captain Terry answers, "We haven't gone far enough to get out of range of any birds. We're seeing the same birds here as we saw in south central Greenland. We are seeing far fewer Lapland Longspurs than in the south. All the coastal seabirds are just as common here as they were in the south."


Gary wonders, "How wet do you get on an open boat without shelter? Also, longships had low gunwales and were supposed to take on a lot of water, so somebody was usually bailing (or so I've heard). Is it like that on the Snorri?"

Hodding replies, "If the seas are rough and we are sailing windward, we get very wet. So we try to sail off the wind as much as possible. We still have to do a lot of bailing, but, unlike the Vikings, we use manual pumps. Otherwise, one or two crew members would probably be on bailing duty most of the day."


The second/third grade special education class at Three Oaks Elementary School in Ft. Myers, Florida is studying the Vikings. Their teacher writes, "How fantastic to find your story in 'Time for Kids' magazine! We plan to keep very close watch on your voyage this summer. My students can't even imagine how cold the water must be up there, even in the summer! The kids have a question for you - were the Vikings really as mean as they're portrayed, or was it just the literary grumblings of pillaged monks that led us to believe so? The kids would really like them to be "good guys," but are also fascinated by their roughness and bravery. Godspeed to you this summer!"

Hodding answers, "They were a pretty rough bunch, but no more so than anyone else living at that time - except maybe the monks they sometimes tormented. The Vikings were better sailors than most and certainly had faster boats. Everyone fought barbarously during the Viking era. The Vikings did not write beyond etching on stones, so we only have the writings of their enemies to judge them by."


Here are some questions previously answered by Rob Stevens in his July 24 journal. Just for fun, we reprint his answers along with the original questions.


George queries, "How much water does Snorri draw when fully loaded? I have been researching possible side exploration routes that the various Vinland explorers may have taken (assuming they were always based at Leif's camps, i.e., L'Anse aux Meadows) and I have not been able to find solid reference to possible ships' draft given typical Viking cargo loads. If you were taking Snorri on side trips after establishing a base camp at LAM, how much cargo would you load for one month's exploring, and what depth of water would be required for safe passage of the ship with such a load?"

Rob responds, "Snorri draws about three feet, in our case mostly due to ballast rocks. Vikings in Vinland would probably use a ship's boat to explore with, or if they had none, three feet is not too much to draw."


Jane wonders, "Is Hodding still wearing his 'Viking' clothes? Why?"

Rob answers, "Hodding is still wearing his Viking clothing, and plans to for the rest of the trip. Except for his feet, on which he has sneakers. He went looking for traditional Inuit boots in Sisimiut but couldn't find his size, and also, on a boat he would need three pair. Plus one of us would have to chew them to keep them soft. I'd rather break my teeth on skibskiks (hardtack). I think that if John Abbott had to go too long without food - read two hours - he'd be willing."


Cecelia asks, "What are some of the things that you feel you are missing the most from home?"

Rob replies, "Eric said he missed Danes, and going to weddings. (Don't know why he said that.) Dean said, without a second's hesitation, 'Orange juice.' I asked him what about Barclay, his wife? Then he said, 'Oh, yeah, my sister-in-law's wedding?' And I said, 'What about Barclay?' And then he said, 'My cat.' At which point I gave up.

"John Abbott, when we finally convinced him he was number three in the rotation (it had, after all, been three minutes since he had last eaten, so he was a bit dazed by the hunger) collected himself to say that he missed Vermont summers, when everyone comes out of hibernation.

"Homer said he missed trees. Doug said he missed drums and driving around listening to loud music. (I bet some people in Summerville don't miss him.)

"Hodding said he missed his wife and the girls and that he wasn't just saying that because I was going to print it. (I guess the hug and kiss I give him every day isn't enough.)

"John Gardner said he missed his cat. I didn't even know he had one. Terry said he missed his sweetie, and sweating. (A number of minutes passed between 'sweetie' and 'sweating.')"

"I miss ice. I miss having cold drinks and cold cereal."


E.J. entreats, "I would be interested to know what a day underway is like. What are the duties? Do you rotate duties? Do you all sleep at the same time? Have your sleep patterns been altered in all that sunlight? What are the temperatures like? How often do you row and how often do you sail? Is there much time for water skiing?"

Rob retorts, "When we are underway and covering some distance, we are on two watches, Port and starboard. (Port is always capitalized and starboard is always a small 's.') When your watch is on, someone is at the helm, another is bow watch, and a third, navigator. Plus one extra. We change duties every hour, and watches are either four or six hours. The watch handles sail changes, which aren't often when we are out in the ocean. Off-watch is often sleeping.

"Terry never sleeps, because he doesn't trust us. And I'm usually throwing up. The constant daylight has changed our sleep and eating habits (except, of course, John Abbott's) and we do things later than we normally would."

John inquires, "I've rowed a little in my time. Do you guys wear gloves or do you have some kind of non-friction device (something invented by the Vikings, no doubt - like pig grease)?"

Rob replies, "We row to get in and out of anchorages often, and, no, we don't wear gloves for rowing."


Bob asks, "How are the English language skills of the people you've met in Greenland? Do most adults under 50 speak it OK?"

Rob answers, "Greenlanders speak Greenlandic and Danish, and most people under 50 speak English."


July 16, 1998

Linda writes,
"I teach junior high students and will be doing a unit on explorers in September. Do any of you recall anything special about that particular age that might have contributed to being part of this fantastic adventure?"

Hodding answers, "I guess I think of junior high school as a very confusing time. I did a lot of daydreaming back then and when it wasn't about girls it was usually about taking off on some crazy adventure. I lived along the Mississippi River and there was this guy who swam by our town in a wet suit headed for New Orleans. For some reason, that goofy adventure made me realize that you could just up and live out such fantasies. I kept seeing him pop up out of a whirlpool, laughing and spitting water out of his mouth. I think I started planning different adventures from that point on.

"Terry says that at that time his family got a place in the North Carolina woods and he feels like he truly discovered stomping around in the woods, looking at everything and fishing for the first time. Doug says his parents got divorced at that time and he began to realize that personal growth was created by personal challenges. This required an inner confidence that eventually led him to be on a trip like this one. Rob read about Boy Scouts in Denmark who were building a Viking ship and he had wanted to build one ever since. Homer got his first sailboat from his mother and hasn't stopped sailing since. John Abbott says disco was around about that time and the woods were the only place he could find to escape it."


Susie asks, "What names have you given each rudder and how did you arrive at that name?"

Hodding replies, "Right now, our names are a little dull. The smallest one is sometimes called the small rudder and sometimes the Vorsa rudder because it is based on a Viking rudder found in Vorsa in the '60s, I believe. Our second rudder, which was built last year when the Vorsa rudder wasn't working, has various names. Rob calls it the Cleopatra because someone told him she had a rudder like it on her barge. I don't think that is entirely accurate but this rudder is more like a Mediterranean rudder than a Viking one. I call it Big Bertha. The third and fourth rudders have even more uninspired names: one is called Rob's rudder because he built it, and the other is called John's rudder because he built it. At this time, John's rudder is working best.

"Of course, when we are very upset, each rudder's name is preceded by a number of curses, which I won't go into right now."


Vikings ask you

In their journals, the crew plans to feature a "question of the day," and welcomes your responses. Here are some of their questions so far:

- What's the better way to row a Viking ship - short strokes or long ones?
- What's the source of the "prussik" [also prusik - a sliding knot]?
- What's the best system for warm, dry hands in an open boat on the North Atlantic?

Any ideas? Send them to the e-mail address above.